Protestrit tegen motor APK

Is er nog iets te doen voor de TL liefhebbers???
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor f2ride2001 » 24 sep 2012, 19:45

Yeah, sure, It's their bisnis.

I was there also, not om my TLS but on my GS500. A bit easier for slow trafic. Had a nice day. I didn't see much TLS though.

We will have to wait and see how things evolve. I do not have much faith in politics. They have yet to convince me they can think straight!

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Zwarte TL1000S > einde oefening.........
Rode TL1000S > nieuwe oefening :-)
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 24 sep 2012, 20:17

I did not go :s
Pushed the TL out to the road and went to start it F1 light ](*,) ](*,)
C24 & C25 coils ?

Sick is not the word I would use ! :(
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Pulled th smart TRE off the bike and she started ? #-o
Took it for a ride on Sunday not far F1 came on again ?
Turned the key off and on and it went out ? :-k

But Mickyboy went top man =D>

Wish I could have gone .

As you say not sure if they will listen at all ](*,)
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 08 okt 2012, 12:24

Some success then .


The Federation of European Motorcyclists' Associations

Oct 5, 2012
French Senate shoots down EU mandatory inspections


Photo Sénat ©Sénat


The European Affairs Commission of the French Senate issued yesterday a negative opinion on the European Commission's proposal for harmonized technical inspections for powered two-wheelers. In question, the Commission's lack of evidence and the violation of the principle of subsidiarity. This article is also available in French

The proposed Directive aims to introduce mandatory periodical tests for motorcycles in every European country, while introducing tougher and more frequent controls for passenger cars. The French Foreign Affairs Commission of the Upper House was examining the document this week in order to issue recommendations.

The senators severely questioned the data put forward by the Commission to justify its project, drawing on the conclusions of the MAIDS in-depth accident study, which show than less than 0.5% of powered two-wheeler accidents can be linked to technical defects - most of which are related to tire wear and damage, which cannot be prevented by yearly inspections. The results of MAIDS are also corroborated by the 2007 Norwegian study by Peter Christensen and Rune Elvik, showing no effect on car accidents after the introduction of periodic tests for cars in Norway, and the official data published by the French National Observatory for Road Safety.

Inspections giant DEKRA also came under heavy fire. The company's reports, strongly promoting increased inspections and cited by the European Commission in support of the directive, are dismissed by the Senate due to invalid data, and the obvious conflict of interest as DEKRA is first in line to take a slice of the cake, with the market for yearly motorcycle and scooter inspections estimated at 1.5 billion euros in France alone.

"No link can be established between the introduction of technical inspections for motorcycles and a reduction in the number of accidents"

The Foreign Affairs Commission also criticized the plan to increase the frequency of inspections, and therefore the cost for users, in the context of the economic crisis that France is going through. The social aspect pointed out by FEMA, acknowledging that families with low income cannot afford to buy new vehicles more often, is fully recognized.

And while the senators agree with the European Commission's environmental concerns, the directive should not unfairly target citizens who cannot afford to buy a new car every six years. Also underlined is the increased efficiency and durability of modern vehicles, which reduce the need for sustained inspections that early in a vehicle's life.

The senators also note the absence of any real benefit for citizens, with no actual provision in the directive for improving the free movement of vehicles - something FEMA was keen to point out.

The conclusions of the report are unambiguous: the Commission's proposal does not address any real need, is not backed by conclusive evidence, is excessively restrictive, and as such does not respect the principle of subsidiarity.

The report will now be forwarded to the French Senate Economic Affairs Commission.

The report is available online here: http://www.senat.fr/leg/ppr12-017.html

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor pedrodetski » 08 okt 2012, 13:26

=D> Nice!
''We don't stop riding because we grow old, we grow old because we stop riding!!''

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor MalukuMiel » 08 okt 2012, 19:29

Dit is alleen Frankrijk toch? Nou de rest nog van de EU...
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor f2ride2001 » 08 okt 2012, 21:15

MalukuMiel schreef:Dit is alleen Frankrijk toch? Nou de rest nog van de EU...


Op de meeting werd gezegd dat ook Nederland en Engeland zich tegen deze wetgeving had uitgesproken.........

Wait and see.

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 08 okt 2012, 21:26

I think that more county's will stand up against the crazy rules that are being thought up by the EU . [-X
And that's great . \:D/
It's a good start =D>
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor polthergeist » 10 okt 2012, 21:05

2 fast 2 live, 2 young 2 die

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 10 okt 2012, 21:27

Whoop !!!!!! =D> =D> =D>
Hands off Brussels [-X
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 20 nov 2012, 22:00

Looks bad ?


The Federation of European Motorcyclists' Associations

Nov 20, 2012
EU Parliament adopts Type Approval regulation

The Members of the European Parliament approved the regulation on the approval of two- and three wheelers. Further amendments before the final adoption by the Council of Ministers are not expected. Motorcyclists welcome the agreed compromises. The regulation is setting new rules and technical requirements for manufacturers who sell motorcycles in the European Union.

In Strasbourg on 20th November, after two years of discussions, the European Parliament has approved (643 out of 677 votes in favour) the regulation on the approval and market surveillance of two- or three-wheel vehicles and quadricycles. As from 2016 member states of the EU will no longer have the option to restrict the maximum power output of motorcycles to 74 kW. New motorcycles with an engine capacity exceeding 125 cm³ (sub-categories A2 and A3) will have to be equipped with Anti-lock Braking systems (ABS) while light motorcycles (sub-category A1) between 51 and 125 cm³ will have to have at least Combined Braking Systems (CBS).

Measures to prevent tampering of the powertrain are going to be installed on all new powered two wheelers with a performance of up to 35 kW (sub-categories B, A1 and A2). The riders organisations represented by FEMA successfully managed to exclude A3 motorcycles and sidecars from these measures. Similarly, special schemes for the approval of individually built motorcycles remain in place which means that the possibility to exempt custom motorcycles from some of the strict measures of this regulation remains.

Emissions limits for motorcycles will become stricter in two stages. In 2016 EURO 4 and in 2020 EURO 5 applies for new types of motorcycles (A1, A2 and A3). FEMA had called for high durability requirements to guarantee that emissions remain on a low level throughout the lifetime of the vehicle. The European Parliament has now decided that manufacturers will need to prove the durability of pollution control devices for a mileage of 35.000 kilometers.

In order to increase competition and to help especially small and independent workshops manufacturers will have to provide easy and unrestricted access to maintenance and repair information for their products. At the same time access ports to On-Board Diagnostic systems, whose installation will also be required as from 2016 for new motorcycles, are going to be standardised.

The categories, and emissions standards and durability requirements are shown in the box

Vehicle categories (sub-categories)

Denomination

Restriction

Emission requirement (durability requirement)

L1e-B

two wheel moped

max speed 45 km/h

max power 4 kW

Euro 3: 2014

Euro 4: 2017 (11.000km)

Euro 5: 2020 (11.000km)

L3e – (A1)

Low-performance motorcycle

max 125 cm³

max 11 kW

max 0.1 kW/kg

Euro 4: 2016 (20.000km)

Euro 5: 2020 (20.000km)

L3e – (A2)

Medium performance motorcycle

max 35 kW

max 0.2 kW/kg

not derived from an MC with an engine of more than double its power

Euro 4: 2016 (35.000km)

Euro 5: 2020 (35.000km)

L3e – (A3)


L4e

High-performance motorcycle

Motorcycle with Sidecar

no restriction

Euro 4: 2016 (35.000km)

Euro 5: 2020 (35.000km)

L3e – (AxT)

x=1,2 or 3

Trial motorcycles

Provisions regarding seat height, ground clearance, gear ration and mass in running order

according to A1, A2 and A3 norms (5.500km)

L3e – (AxE)

x=1,2 or 3

Enduro motorcycles

Provisions regarding seat height, ground clearance, gear ration and mass in running order

according to A1, A2 and A3 norms (11.000km)

An environmental effects study, being carried out by the Commission by 2016, will consider the appropriateness of the Euro 5 stage. All dates valid for new models. Existing models will have to apply one year later accordingly.

No anti-tampering measures for A3 and French 100 hp limit skipped

The reaction of French riders on the decision of the European Parliament was extremely positive as France is the only country of the EU still making use of its right to refuse the registration of motorcycles with a maximum net power of more than 74 kW. As from 1st of January at the latest French riders will be able to purchase and register more powerful motorcycles in France – just like the riders in any other country of the EU already do.

The Commission originally proposed to equip all L-category vehicles (therefore everything on two or three wheels quipped with an engine) "with designated measures to prevent tampering of a vehicle’s powertrain" (laid down in Article 18). After lengthy and tough discussions with MEPs and national representative the member organisations of FEMA finally managed to exclude A3 motorcycles from such measures.

Now the text states: “Vehicle manufacturers shall equip L-category vehicles with the exception of subcategories L3e-A3 and L4e-A3, with designated features to prevent tampering of a vehicle's powertrain” (compare Article 18 (2)). For motorcycles and sidecars unrestricted in power there will finally be no changes in this respect.

What exactly the measures “to prevent tampering of a vehicles powertrain” for mopeds and A1 and A2 motorcycles will consist of is still unknown. The European Parliament entitled the European Commission to work out the technical details via so-called delegated acts until the beginning of 2014. Similar uncertainty remains for many other technical details

Debate in Parliament

Apart from the extremely EU-sceptical parties all political groups welcomed the Report of the Dutch member of the European Parliament (MEP) Wim van de Camp who was named Rapporteur of the regulation on behalf of the committee in charge, the Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection (IMCO). As a result 643 out of the 677 MEPs present voted in favour of the text.

On 19th Novemeber, the night prior to the vote, the final debate on the type approval regulation was held in Parliament. Rapporteur Wim van de Camp once again highlighted the technical complexity of the regulation as the main reason why its approval had been delayed repeatedly. He also reminded the European Commission to provide enough room for stakeholders to contribute to the formulation of delegated acts. At the same time he asked the Commission to stick to the schedule in order to ensure adequate lead time for manufacturers.

EU Commissioner Antonio Tajani described the compromise text as the “result of intense discussions between the Commission, the Council and the European Parliament”. Mr. Tajani highlighted the improved access to repair and maintenance information as beneficial for the consumers and promised to have an eye on the development of the delegated acts.

British MEP and IMCO Chairman Malcolm Harbour underlined the environmental achievements of the regulation and the parliament’s contribution to provide manufacturers with sufficient time to cope with the new rules.

Irish MEP Gay Mitchell took the opportunity to criticise the Commission for having suggested the inclusion of motorcycles and scooters into the proposal for a new regulation on periodic roadworthiness testing. Like FEMA he sees no justification for such a step which would create additional and unnecessary financial burdens for Europe's citizens. Click here to get more details about the new proposal for a regulation on roadworthiness testing

The approved text can be accessed here

Read a previous FEMA report on this regulation

The press release of ACEM - the Motorcycle Industry in Europe

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor f2ride2001 » 21 nov 2012, 19:50

EU Commissioner Antonio Tajani described the compromise text as the “result of intense discussions between the Commission, the Council and the European Parliament”. Mr. Tajani highlighted the improved access to repair and maintenance information as beneficial for the consumers and promised to have an eye on the development of the delegated acts.

British MEP and IMCO Chairman Malcolm Harbour underlined the environmental achievements of the regulation and the parliament’s contribution to provide manufacturers with sufficient time to cope with the new rules.

Irish MEP Gay Mitchell took the opportunity to criticise the Commission for having suggested the inclusion of motorcycles and scooters into the proposal for a new regulation on periodic roadworthiness testing. Like FEMA he sees no justification for such a step which would create additional and unnecessary financial burdens for Europe's citizens. Click here to get more details about the new proposal for a regulation on roadworthiness testing


And we praise them for being such stupid idiots............... ](*,) ](*,) :-"

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Berichtdoor kennymcQ-TL-S » 21 nov 2012, 20:47

This is the worst part ](*,) #-o =;

Apart from the extremely EU-sceptical parties all political groups welcomed the Report of the Dutch member of the European Parliament (MEP) Wim van de Camp who was named Rapporteur of the regulation on behalf of the committee in charge, the Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection (IMCO). As a result 643 out of the 677 MEPs present voted in favour of the tex
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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor finally » 22 nov 2012, 01:05

Motherfuckers zijn het! Regeltjes regeltjes regeltjes bah!

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor Hellbender » 22 nov 2012, 11:01

Maw, er wordt een nieuw voorstel uitgewerkt ivm 'roadworthiness' van motorfietsen?

Zal mijn originele onderdelen maar alvast bijhouden zeker en een dag of twee per jaar vrijmaken om terug te sleutelen naar originele staat?

Dit is echt een dictatuur van de regels aan het worden...

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Re: Protestrit tegen motor APK

Berichtdoor Oost-TL1000R » 22 nov 2012, 12:40

Scheelt dat de TLR/TLS al bijna een oldtimer aan het worden is... :lol:

Vast wel een uitzondering voor t.z.t. :-k
:D BBOTM April 2013 :D

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